Windhorst/Hoop Collective Has Cavs 7th in EC Tier List

The Windhorst/Hoop Collective podcast did a discussion on Eastern Conference playoff tiers and put the Celtics in Tier 1 / Knicks/76ers / Bucks in Tier 2 / Magic /Pacers (and finally Cavs) in Tier 3.

https://youtu.be/OCEUMO0N00k?t=2238

Seems low to me..I see the Cavs beating the Bucks / Magic / Pacers in the playoffs with their current roster especially if Atkinson ends up being an upgrade. (TBD)

Where do you guys have the cavs heading into the season?