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I believe that large predators, although dangerous, generate fascination due to their strength, something that our brain could associate with power and aptitude.

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Fair point, but I also think great white sharks and bald eagles just have a damn cool look, even if they were settled at the bottom of the food chain.

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I suspect that looking cool is something you can only afford at the top of the food chain.

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Or we are selected to perceive advantageous traits as \u201ccool.\u201d

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Large talons = better ability to catch prey -> damn that looks cool

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Huge muscles on Grizzlies and and Moose = better torque allow them to manhandle threats -> damn that looks cool

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Slender, Angular snouts on wolves = better ability to smell prey from long distances -> damn that looks cool

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"}, "t1_me4hq2t": {"author": "CrispyHoneyBeef", "authorId": "t2_11bsd58rwv", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740206437.0, "depth": 5, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": 1740207091.0, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me4hq2t", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me4i0gd", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me4hj89", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me4hq2t/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me4hj89", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 2, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "I would posit that the ones which do, however, have a \u201cwow\u201d factor, get it from our biological aptitude to select for dominant pursuit/capture traits.", "body": "

I would posit that the ones which do, however, have a \u201cwow\u201d factor, get it from our biological aptitude to select for dominant pursuit/capture traits.

"}, "t1_me4i0gd": {"author": "IAmASeeker", "authorId": "t2_lapf0", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740206588.0, "depth": 4, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me4i0gd", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me4io18", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me4gr21", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me4i0gd/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me4hq2t", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 1, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": ">Or we are selected to perceive advantageous traits as \u201ccool.\u201d \n\nI can challenge that assessment.\n\nRabbits turn brown in the spring and white in the winter to blend into the ground and avoid predators but neither white nor brown are especially cool.\n\nIt's advantageous that possums play dead but that's not very cool.\n\nA geckos tail will detach for a predator and grow back but knobbly tails aren't \"cool\".\n\nSnow leopards have paws that spread across the surface of snow like snowshoes but their big clown-shoe feet look silly.\n\nAssumedly platypi are subject to natural selection so all of their ridiculous traits must be advantageous.\n\nMy proposition is that advantageous traits of predators can afford to *look* like *something* because they aren't evolved to excel at hiding from predators. The advantageous traits of prey animals make them *less* of a spectacle.", "body": "

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Or we are selected to perceive advantageous traits as \u201ccool.\u201d
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I can challenge that assessment.

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Rabbits turn brown in the spring and white in the winter to blend into the ground and avoid predators but neither white nor brown are especially cool.

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It's advantageous that possums play dead but that's not very cool.

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A geckos tail will detach for a predator and grow back but knobbly tails aren't "cool".

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Snow leopards have paws that spread across the surface of snow like snowshoes but their big clown-shoe feet look silly.

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Assumedly platypi are subject to natural selection so all of their ridiculous traits must be advantageous.

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My proposition is that advantageous traits of predators can afford to look like something because they aren't evolved to excel at hiding from predators. The advantageous traits of prey animals make them less of a spectacle.

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I would respond in defense that we are hominids and hominids tend to be more inquisitive and aggressive than lagomorphs or sciuromorphs.

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Maybe I\u2019m just tired, but I don\u2019t think I understand your proposition.

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advantageous traits of predators can afford to look like something because they aren\u2019t evolved to excel at hiding from predators. The advantageous traits of prey animals make them less of a spectacle.
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I believe we are saying something similar? I posit that we identify predators with \u201ccool\u201d because hominids are predators and thus we are biologically driven to prefer adaptations that promote efficient capture over adaptations that promote efficient evasion.

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Is that terribly different from your suggestion?

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I'm proposing that only predators are in a position on the food chain that allows them to survive with features that "look" any way at all.

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If a human can look at a creature and point to an interesting feature, every predator on earth can do that faster than us so that creature will not survive to pass on its genes.

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Predators can have a look that's cool or dumb or auspicious or pathetic... but if prey has any kind of look at all then it gets eaten first.

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The primary physical trait of creatures that do not kill prey is that they don't have any kind of look at all... because animals that can't kill survive by blending in with the dirt.

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Gotcha. I think that generally means we agree. If nothing except predators have distinctly recognizable characteristics, then of course we prefer those characteristics, as they are the only distinctly recognizable ones. If I understand correctly:

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you suggest that the preference for features associated with predators doesn\u2019t come from our nature as predators, but rather from our nature as rational thinkers seeing patterns and assigning meaning to them arbitrarily.

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If I understand you correctly, I think your hypothesis is equally as valid and I would love to see a study done by a sociologist or anthropologist to further understand the theory. Thank you for your insights and perceptions!

"}, "t1_me4ovtf": {"author": "IAmASeeker", "authorId": "t2_lapf0", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740210352.0, "depth": 8, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me4ovtf", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me4kf8a", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me4k24r", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me4ovtf/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me4k24r", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 1, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "Well initially I was operating on the assumption that, generally speaking, all creatures' features are an expression of the golden ratio... that they have some inherent value of beauty that none of us can fully comprehend, and that since features are more expressive in creatures that aren't preyed upon, we see more things that we inherently find beautiful on predators.\n\nBut that was my baseline bias. I didn't consider that deeply, and the crux of my initial claim is just that I think it's likely that predators would have more variation in physical presentation because they are at least risk of predation.\n\nIn hindsight, I think you're probably right about pattern recognition. Those are the patterns and features we grow accustomed to seeing in the natural world, so we're subconsciously compelled to find them attractive or comforting in some way. Seeing them repeatedly on creatures around us probably makes us more likely to appreciate their form.", "body": "

Well initially I was operating on the assumption that, generally speaking, all creatures' features are an expression of the golden ratio... that they have some inherent value of beauty that none of us can fully comprehend, and that since features are more expressive in creatures that aren't preyed upon, we see more things that we inherently find beautiful on predators.

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But that was my baseline bias. I didn't consider that deeply, and the crux of my initial claim is just that I think it's likely that predators would have more variation in physical presentation because they are at least risk of predation.

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In hindsight, I think you're probably right about pattern recognition. Those are the patterns and features we grow accustomed to seeing in the natural world, so we're subconsciously compelled to find them attractive or comforting in some way. Seeing them repeatedly on creatures around us probably makes us more likely to appreciate their form.

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Not a predator \u2260 can\u2019t kill

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A lot of their cool looking physical traits certainly help them get there!

"}, "t1_me4ibs1": {"author": "IAmASeeker", "authorId": "t2_lapf0", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740206755.0, "depth": 4, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me4ibs1", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me4irvj", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me4gyts", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me4ibs1/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me4gyts", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 1, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "Well sure but a prey animal with a mutation that gives it a cool looking part is the first animal of that litter to die by predation.\n\nThings that are good at killing can afford to have a distinct feature but animals that are good at running or hiding are forced to look like literal dirt.", "body": "

Well sure but a prey animal with a mutation that gives it a cool looking part is the first animal of that litter to die by predation.

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Things that are good at killing can afford to have a distinct feature but animals that are good at running or hiding are forced to look like literal dirt.

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I wouldn\u2019t say any of this is mutually exclusive of my claim.

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It's the same outcome. It's the cause that's different.

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Do we think predatory features are "cool" because animals good at killing have them? Or do some creatures get away with having "cool" features because they can kill anything that tries to eat them? Bald eagles don't have white heads to be better killers, they get away with having white heads because they'll kill a predator that tries to eat them.

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Are roses romantic because we give them romantically? Or do we give them romantically because they represent fertility and the increased blood flow of arousal?

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Do we walk on the sidewalk because there are no cars there? Or are there no cars on the sidewalk because it's the designated walking space?

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Did computer engineers in the 70s design floppy discs to look like an image we would associate with saving data? Or is the Save icon shaped like a floppy disc because that's how we used to save data?

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The same outcome can have multiple causes. We agree that predators features are inherently cool looking. I disagree that our concept of aesthetic beauty is based on lethality. I propose that only predators have a high enough survivability to afford to put a target on themselves.

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I disagree that our concept of aesthetic beauty is based on lethality. I propose that only predators have a high enough survivability to afford to put a target on themselves.
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I think it could be both honestly. For example, one of the things that grants the shark its \u201ccool\u201d appeal is its robust, muscular structure compared to most other sea life. This morphology/physicality aids in its predatory success, and doesn\u2019t inherently put any kind of \u201ctarget on its back.\u201d The proportionally large jaws would be another thing that derives some awe, which can be chalked up the same way.

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Also, and I doubt I\u2019m alone on this, I\u2019d propose that some prey animals DO look \u201ccool\u201d, even though it\u2019s more often the predators. To add on to this, something else we may have to consider is that not all prey animals rely on evasion for their survival against predators, and frankly these tend to be the types remarked with similar reverence as a lot of the predators. To a degree, I think the combative performance boost associated with certain physical features does contribute to that \u201ccool\u201d appeal, and this probably goes back to the fact we are predators ourselves who get drawn in fascination to those features.

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This is a matter of perspective but I'm not convinced that sharks look "cool". The rows of teeth are kinda "spooky" or "threatening" but a shark is basically just a meat tube with teeth on one end, right? Aside from a necklace made of triangular teeth, what's cool about a shark?

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Frankly, I don't know if my theory even applies to the sea. The whole MO of an anglerfish is that it attracts prey by looking spectacular... but on land, looking spectacular attracts predators instead.

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What is a prey creature with a "cool" visual trait? Maybe I have tunnel vision but I can't think of a single one. All of the prey I can think of either look gross or cute.

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Yeah it appears this is the point where we may just have to agree to disagree

"}, "t1_me4fu74": {"author": "_-SomethingFishy-_", "authorId": "t2_5fmi6oqe", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740205451.0, "depth": 2, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me4fu74", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me4gqbn", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me3oc6v", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me4fu74/", "prev": {"id": "continueThread-t1_me4qv78", "type": "continueThread"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 1, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "They also developed that damn cool look because of their predator associated features, a lot of their anatomy is designed to hunt so if they were bottom of the food chain they\u2019d look quite different. But there\u2019s definitely also cool looking prey and derpy looking predators", "body": "

They also developed that damn cool look because of their predator associated features, a lot of their anatomy is designed to hunt so if they were bottom of the food chain they\u2019d look quite different. But there\u2019s definitely also cool looking prey and derpy looking predators

"}, "t1_me4gqbn": {"author": "WetStainLicker", "authorId": "t2_wvg6k0dhm", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740205915.0, "depth": 3, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": 1740206753.0, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me4gqbn", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me4itue", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me4fu74", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me4gqbn/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me4fu74", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 1, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "I say \u201cbottom of the food chain\u201d as an exaggeration of course, obviously not as if they were autotrophs or primary consumers. I guess my main point is that even if they weren\u2019t apex predators, at the tippity top of the food chain in most of the ecosystems they inhabit like they are often associated to be, I would still find them to be among the most badass looking of extant animals.\n\nOur perception of these things is always an interesting topic though.", "body": "

I say \u201cbottom of the food chain\u201d as an exaggeration of course, obviously not as if they were autotrophs or primary consumers. I guess my main point is that even if they weren\u2019t apex predators, at the tippity top of the food chain in most of the ecosystems they inhabit like they are often associated to be, I would still find them to be among the most badass looking of extant animals.

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Our perception of these things is always an interesting topic though.

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Rhinos and elephants are an example of cool looking \u201cprey\u201d. Prey in quotes because neither of these fall prey to any animals, besides humans, except under extreme circumstances.

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No need to put prey in quotes. Targeted and taken as prey is just that. For a predator, taking advantage of vulnerable positions or circumstances of the prey animals in their region is all part of the game.v

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"Charismatic megafauna"

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Winner

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Big cats and dogs have expressive faces so we can, with some degree of accuracy, interpret their mood and intentions, and empathizing with them is easier. Sympathy changes when talking about crocodiles, pythons or sharks: far more people find them repulsive or unnerving.

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serious furry vibes

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I think it has more to do with the fact that we associate predatorial animals with strength and us humans admire strong powerful things.

"}, "t1_me3yay0": {"author": "dudinax", "authorId": "t2_5ej1ie", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740197471.0, "depth": 0, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me3yay0", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me3yg0r", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": null, "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me3yay0/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me3f7pd", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 6, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "If you see them in real life with no barrier between you and them, they're pretty scary.", "body": "

If you see them in real life with no barrier between you and them, they're pretty scary.

"}, "t1_me3yg0r": {"author": "health_throwaway195", "authorId": "t2_f4h0zbcr1", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740197531.0, "depth": 0, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me3yg0r", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me2ftpp", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": null, "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me3yg0r/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me3yay0", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 6, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "I think big cats and large birds of prey inspire awe because they were major predators of human ancestors. That awe can transform into admiration in a safe environment.", "body": "

I think big cats and large birds of prey inspire awe because they were major predators of human ancestors. That awe can transform into admiration in a safe environment.

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I think this is strongly tied to social programming more than to our nature. You know how manly men are being taught that they should like bik stronk thing like bik stronk animal and if he likes smol animal like a ferret or a pinguin he is gay and feminine because womin week. Fucking stupid tbh.

"}, "t1_me2wcmp": {"author": "Soar_Dev_Official", "authorId": "t2_fedm15jm", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740180989.0, "depth": 1, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me2wcmp", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me42bvz", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me2ftpp", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me2wcmp/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me2ftpp", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 13, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "this is probably the right answer. nobody thinks crocs or dinosaurs are sexy, even though they're true apex predators", "body": "

this is probably the right answer. nobody thinks crocs or dinosaurs are sexy, even though they're true apex predators

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No one looks at a ferret and thinks badass

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No one looks at a t Rex and thinks "cute"

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There's biological basis for these things. But ya know, who cares when we can Jerry rig some social science and chalk it up to toxic masculine injustice

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I mean it can definitely be both, in fact I\u2019d say it probably is both.

"}, "t1_me4gzyz": {"author": "AlcheMe_ooo", "authorId": "t2_feyq3pa3", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740206056.0, "depth": 4, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me4gzyz", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me4iyjy", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me4gcip", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me4gzyz/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me4gcip", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 2, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "You're right. The line between the two is illusory, not just blurred. It's both. I really didn't appreciate the way the commenter chalked it up to the lowest hanging fruit (pun intended) around.", "body": "

You're right. The line between the two is illusory, not just blurred. It's both. I really didn't appreciate the way the commenter chalked it up to the lowest hanging fruit (pun intended) around.

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You\u2019re not wrong. T rex\u2019s do look kinda cute and ferrets are rlly fucking badass!

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But ferrets are badass and the T. Rex is cute :(

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\ud83d\ude01

"}, "t1_me26dzl": {"author": "Dominant_Gene", "authorId": "t2_3ikiy9eo", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740173140.0, "depth": 0, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me26dzl", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me3jwmh", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": null, "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me26dzl/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me70nyq", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 8, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "serious answer: AFAIK, its because of our brains recognizing their general body plan as similar to our own babies, so we are drawn to \"aww\" more than \"runnnn\" \n\n\nnonetheless i assure you, if you encounter yourself face to face with a large predator you will not be going \"aww\" (at least not for long)", "body": "

serious answer: AFAIK, its because of our brains recognizing their general body plan as similar to our own babies, so we are drawn to "aww" more than "runnnn"

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nonetheless i assure you, if you encounter yourself face to face with a large predator you will not be going "aww" (at least not for long)

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"Let me pet that daaaaawwwggg" Dead

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Would be me.

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Idk man I\u2019m a wildlife photographer and I sit there and saw awww for hours sometimes

"}, "t1_me3jrgx": {"author": "Vrudr", "authorId": "t2_1f2tjcr0u4", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740191944.0, "depth": 0, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me3jrgx", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me4nuxn", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": null, "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me3jrgx/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me3pf2j", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 3, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "This is worded so weird I feel nasty. I get what you mean, and, without much knowledge in the field I would say yes, there is some brain thingy going on with what we perceive as majestic or gross, like, bright colors in the nature often mean danger, camouflage means there are creatures more dangerous in the area, longer necks means food is in altitude, etc.", "body": "

This is worded so weird I feel nasty. I get what you mean, and, without much knowledge in the field I would say yes, there is some brain thingy going on with what we perceive as majestic or gross, like, bright colors in the nature often mean danger, camouflage means there are creatures more dangerous in the area, longer necks means food is in altitude, etc.

"}, "t1_me4nuxn": {"author": "Gullible-Pay3732", "authorId": "t2_7mww19zm", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740209775.0, "depth": 1, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me4nuxn", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": true, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me76dl7", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me3jrgx", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me4nuxn/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me3jrgx", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 0, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "Are you a child of less than 8 that needs to communicate his feelings every step of the way? \n\nI honestly am surprised by how poor nearly all answers have been so far", "body": "

Are you a child of less than 8 that needs to communicate his feelings every step of the way?

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I honestly am surprised by how poor nearly all answers have been so far

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I thought you wanted people to have transparency about their feelings? This seems a bit inconsistent.

"}, "t1_me76rhp": {"author": "Gullible-Pay3732", "authorId": "t2_7mww19zm", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740246469.0, "depth": 3, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me76rhp", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": true, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me7b5qq", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me76dl7", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me76rhp/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me76dl7", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 2, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "Hahaha you can\u2019t let it go, had to take a peek. Don\u2019t forget about your cows!", "body": "

Hahaha you can\u2019t let it go, had to take a peek. Don\u2019t forget about your cows!

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Read my comment again, maybe you are the child without any ability to read, except for the first 8 words, I didn't say anything about my feelings.

"}, "t1_me7e1w1": {"author": "Gullible-Pay3732", "authorId": "t2_7mww19zm", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740248540.0, "depth": 3, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me7e1w1", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": true, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me7fcle", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me7b5qq", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me7e1w1/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me7b5qq", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 1, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "That\u2019s because I was talking about your first 8 words, you have seen that correctly. Bravo!", "body": "

That\u2019s because I was talking about your first 8 words, you have seen that correctly. Bravo!

"}, "t1_me7fcle": {"author": "Vrudr", "authorId": "t2_1f2tjcr0u4", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740248914.0, "depth": 4, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_me7fcle", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_me7fxqr", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": "t1_me7e1w1", "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/me7fcle/", "prev": {"id": "t1_me7e1w1", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 1, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "Then I'm correct, you can't focus on what's important when you read, thanks.", "body": "

Then I'm correct, you can't focus on what's important when you read, thanks.

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It was pointing out you couldn\u2019t leave out irrelevant information, which you seemed to admit but then felt the need to start another issue that wasn\u2019t there. You\u2019re quite welcome

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Idk but Bald eagles look so fucking badass \ud83e\udd85 \ud83e\udd85 \ud83e\udd85

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You should see them in real life, they're fucking terrifying

"}, "t1_mehkezn": {"author": "silicondream", "authorId": "t2_1si36vhd", "collapsed": false, "collapsedReason": null, "collapsedBecauseCrowdControl": null, "collapsedReasonCode": null, "created": 1740385570.0, "depth": 0, "deletedBy": null, "distinguishType": null, "editedAt": null, "gildings": null, "goldCount": 0, "id": "t1_mehkezn", "isAdmin": false, "isDeleted": false, "isGildable": false, "isLocked": false, "isMod": false, "isOp": false, "isSaved": false, "isStickied": false, "isScoreHidden": false, "next": {"id": "t1_melqyn8", "type": "comment"}, "parentId": null, "permalink": "/r/biology/comments/1iv0rzc/attractive_large_predators/mehkezn/", "prev": {"id": "t1_meaultr", "type": "comment"}, "postAuthor": null, "postId": "t3_1iv0rzc", "postTitle": null, "score": 1, "sendReplies": true, "subredditId": "t5_2qhn7", "voteState": 0, "bodyMD": "I don't think it would really *help* much to be innately repelled by them. Big creatures with pointy teeth and claws and hard stares are scary enough to deter us when we encounter them in the wild, no matter how purty they are. Also, primates are big on social learning, and it probably doesn't take long to notice that everyone starts pointing and screaming whenever the tiger rolls around. (And if you run into your first tiger while you're alone, running away won't save you anyway.)\n\nSnakes and spiders are usually small, unobtrusive, and only dangerous up close. A reflexive \"Ew!\" and a quick jump backwards will save you--but the quicker the better, so it's adaptive for our repulsion to be as strong as possible.\n\nWe're not the only ones that do this, too. A lot of animals (see all the cat and cucumber videos) will startle at a snake, but with large mammalian predators they'll freeze instead.", "body": "

I don't think it would really help much to be innately repelled by them. Big creatures with pointy teeth and claws and hard stares are scary enough to deter us when we encounter them in the wild, no matter how purty they are. Also, primates are big on social learning, and it probably doesn't take long to notice that everyone starts pointing and screaming whenever the tiger rolls around. (And if you run into your first tiger while you're alone, running away won't save you anyway.)

\n\n

Snakes and spiders are usually small, unobtrusive, and only dangerous up close. A reflexive "Ew!" and a quick jump backwards will save you--but the quicker the better, so it's adaptive for our repulsion to be as strong as possible.

\n\n

We're not the only ones that do this, too. A lot of animals (see all the cat and cucumber videos) will startle at a snake, but with large mammalian predators they'll freeze instead.

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well evolution at the macro level is total nonsense, complete story telling and pelting into the void, so it's no surprise all the shoehorned responses to your post feel so flimsy and unsatisfactory.

\n\n

the real reason we see these noble creatures as attractive is that the human being was designed to recognize divine power, majesty, and beauty. it has nothing to do with survival and everything to do with a higher aspect of human nature that transcends base material instincts. it's the same reason antelopes look so elegant and graceful, and why flowers look so irresistibly gorgeous. you are an intelligent being created to appreciate divine artistry.

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From an evolutionary point of view I would imagine it would make more sense for our brain to make us repelled by them, not attracted? \n\nI don\u2019t know if the logic works here, but it seems like our brain does make us repelled by spiders? \n\nOr are there just some \u2018universal\u2019/cross species aesthetic features that many animals use to signal fitness? ", "content": "

I\u2019m just thinking off the top of my head here but I\u2019ve been wondering for some time why it is that large predators like lions, eagles, leopards, tigers, .. can appear so majestic. From an evolutionary point of view I would imagine it would make more sense for our brain to make us repelled by them, not attracted?

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I don\u2019t know if the logic works here, but it seems like our brain does make us repelled by spiders?

\n\n

Or are there just some \u2018universal\u2019/cross species aesthetic features that many animals use to signal fitness?

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‘Attractive’ large predators

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2025-02-21 20:27:40

‘Attractive’ large predators

I’m just thinking off the top of my head here but I’ve been wondering for some time why it is that large predators like lions, eagles, leopards, tigers, .. can appear so majestic. From an evolutionary point of view I would imagine it would make more sense for our brain to make us repelled by them, not attracted?

I don’t know if the logic works here, but it seems like our brain does make us repelled by spiders?

Or are there just some ‘universal’/cross species aesthetic features that many animals use to signal fitness?

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‘Attractive’ large predators